Candice Lazar: Breathwork for Entrepreneurs, Stress Relief & Everyday Transformation | Ep65

Candice Lazar is the founder of 44 Breathwork – a science-backed, no-nonsense approach to feeling better fast using the power of the breath. Her journey into this work didn’t begin on a yoga mat but rather when she was sick in bed and nothing else was helping.

A former lawyer, marketer, and lifelong high achiever, Candice finally found a way to feel better that didn’t require perfection or endless hours she didn’t have. Driven by curiosity and determination, she began studying the breath and went on to become a certified breathwork coach. She is also certified as a menopause coach, life coach, Reiki Level 2 practitioner, and is a licensed Heart-Centered facilitator.

Today, Candice helps business owners and high achievers use breathwork as a practical tool for stress relief, energy, sleep, and clarity. Her message is simple: if you can breathe, you can do this.

In this episode of the Successful Spiritualpreneur Podcast, Christian welcomes Candice Lazar — founder of 44 Breathwork, lawyer turned breathwork coach, and creator of a science-backed, no-nonsense approach to feeling better fast. Through her work, Candice helps entrepreneurs and high achievers use everyday breathwork techniques to relieve stress, boost focus, and find balance in the midst of busy lives.

Together, Christian and Candice explore how something as simple as breathing consciously can create profound clarity, calm, and transformation. They discuss the idea of “breathwork band-aids” — quick, practical tools for nervous system regulation — and how tiny, consistent practices can reshape our energy, mindset, and resilience over time. Candice also shares her journey of starting a new business at 44, the deeper meaning behind her brand name, and how empathy and authenticity can transform not just your business, but your entire way of being.

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, disconnected, or unsure how to integrate mindfulness into your day-to-day reality, this conversation will show you that transformation doesn’t require complexity — it simply starts with one intentional breath.

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Visit her website: https://44breathwork.com/

Core Themes

• breathwork for entrepreneurs
• breathwork for stress relief
• everyday breathwork techniques
• nervous system regulation
• box breathing / 4-4-4-4 technique
• mindfulness habits
• empathy in business
• transformational breathing

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Transcript

Christian
What is up beautiful people? This is Christian from the Successful Spiritualpreneur Podcast. And today I'm very excited to have Candice Lazar on the podcast and she's the founder of 44 breathwork, a science backed, no nonsense approach to feeling better fast using the power of breath. She's also certified as a menopause coach, life coach, Reiki level two practitioner and a licensed heart centered facilitator. Today, Candice helps business owners and high achievers use breathwork as a practical tool for stress relief, energy, sleep, and clarity. Her message is quite simple. If you can breathe, you can do this. Welcome to the show, Candice.

Candice Lazar
Thank you. It's great to be here.

Christian
Love it. Well, before we start, I would like for us to take a breath.

Candice Lazar
works for me.

Christian
Hmm.

It's so simple. It works every time. Every time. So how did you...

Candice Lazar
The only

thing you're off on no matter what.

Christian
Yeah, how did you discover breathwork?

Candice Lazar
⁓ The short answer is I was sick in bed. ⁓ I went on vacation. I flew halfway around the world on this trip and as soon as I landed I got sick. And I spent half that trip in bed trying to do a lot of meditations to help myself feel better. ⁓ I had medicine as well which I took but you know takes time to kick in so I'm just laying there and like God what you know.

What can I do? And I was trying a lot of different meditations and I wasn't really doing it for me except for this one meditation that had a breathwork component. I just kept coming back to this one meditation with the breathwork aspect and I really liked that. And I thought, well, why do I like this so much? I like researching, I like learning things. So once I started feeling better and when I got home from that trip, I decided to start researching the breath a little bit. And I was just amazed at how impactful how you breathe can be

your life and I thought I need to start telling people about this. More people need to know. So that's how I ended up doing that.

Christian
I love that. That's amazing. Yeah, I think a breathwork is one of the most powerful techniques, modalities that's out there. And I think, especially for people who've never done it, it's just so effective because you like, you feel it so like immediately, you know, it's not like meditation where you're like, you know, I've tried 20 minutes, I've tried 30 minutes, but it's like nothing, you know, with breathwork, it's like, you're not gonna not feel something, you know, so that's beautiful.

Candice Lazar
That's exactly right. That's really my whole, that's my platform right there. You just said it for me. So thank you. And there is a lot of that. With breath work, you can do some of these longer term. You can go really deep. You can get deeply into your subconscious. can be a lengthy, there's breath work that you can do for hours. But.

What I really teach my clients a lot of the time is, let me give you a band-aid, right? Instead of having like this, this massive healing experience all the time, here's a little breathwork band-aid. Take this band-aid when you're sitting in traffic and you're feeling stressed out. Take this band-aid, you know, after lunch when you're feeling a little sluggish and tired and you want some more energy. You know, I'm like using small hits of breathwork in different ways, just in your everyday life. And you do start to notice that it makes a

big difference. know, don't get me like more is more, but little bits are a lot. And it really, I think can help change your overall baseline.

Christian
Yeah. Yeah, I really love that. And, you know, nowadays, you know, these big breakthrough things are so popular, like ayahuasca and plant medicine and things like that. And while these are all wonderful modalities, like a lot of times people are not ready for that upgrade. You know what I mean? It's like, it's really, it's a deep, very, very, very deep work in your life or in your being. And sometimes people are not ready for that. Right. And so they.

handle that energy or they make stupid decisions afterwards in a way that kind of like you know you know it's very interesting so I think breathwork is a great modality because again it's like just like a little bit it's like it's just you know just like the rest it's very just like little by little you know that's wonderful and tell me a little bit more about the number 44 what's the significance there because I'll see 44 breathwork that's your brand name

Candice Lazar
Yes, so a lot ⁓ of Breathwork ⁓ coaches, businesses, et cetera, they have a very evocative feel to the name of them. And when I was exploring getting certified, a lot of them have very specific feel to the words. There are companies like Paws or...

revelation or soma and these words to me all have certain vibes they you know when you hear those words with the word breathwork afterwards you're going to have a very specific sense of what they are offering.

When I started my business, did not necessarily know that I wanted to, again, I wanted something that was going to be a little bit more flexible, a little bit more everyday. So I didn't know that I wanted a word that was going to have such a specific meaning attached to it. So I chose 44. And in my mind, I was picturing in a way, you know how they say like orange theory, right? People know what orange theory is, even though orange doesn't really have anything to

to do with it. It's like 44 is the thing that, you know, eventually you could get it to be its own thing enough that people would recognize. I chose 44 for a few different reasons. I started my business when I was 44 years old, and I want people to know that it's okay to start a business later in life.

and I love box breathing. don't know if you're familiar with it. Actually, I do know. I'm sure you're familiar with box breathing, but in case someone is not, box breathing is four counts of four. So what you do there is you inhale for four counts, you hold for four counts, you exhale for four counts, and you hold for four counts. And I really love that technique. I wouldn't say it's my absolute favorite, but I really love that technique and that fit as well.

So I decided to go with 44 breathwork so that it seemed like those few things just dovetailed nicely and especially again not having a specific meaning attached to it that people can bring their own. ⁓ They're not bring, I should say that they can, not that they can bring their own, that they're not really going to necessarily bring their own preconceived notions to it based on.

Christian
Yeah, beautiful. And do you know, I'm not sure if you're into that kind of stuff, but like, do you know what the intro number meaning is of 44? Have you ever looked that up?

Candice Lazar
Yeah, angel, yeah, and I mentioned that on my website as well, actually too, that's right. And this the spiritual printer cast, so definitely you guys are into angel numbers. So it's interesting because I've seen some interpretations that say 44 is transformation, and then I've seen other interpretations that say, no, it's a biblical number and it means stability. And in some ways, those are...

somewhat oppositional. However, I think the breath can be a source of both. think your breath can be a major source of transformation. And I think that when you want stability, that you can always come back to your breath. So it fits really well both ways there as well.

Christian
Yeah. Yeah,

I love that. Especially I think in relation to the breath, know, the breath can be so powerful if we let it be, but usually we just don't, you know, because it's not run, it's run by our subconscious mind, which you never, you know, we never utilize breath really what it could be every minute or hour, you know? So it's very interesting. So breath for us is like, well, it's a very, you know, stable, stable, always the same kind of thing, right? But it can be super powerful.

Like I've done breath work sessions that were, you know, 40 minutes and I was like, on the floor, you know, moving my limbs. And I was like, most people don't get there. Um, but, uh, yeah, breath is so powerful. So I think it's a perfect number. I love it. Um, and, uh, I love that you started your business a little later in life. Um, tell us, cause I think there's a lot of.

Candice Lazar
Right.

Christian
change coming down the pipeline with AI and things like that? what advice, like I think a lot of people now are even looking for like, how can I set myself up? Or knowing that their job in, I don't know, five years won't be around anymore. what advice do you have for people like, I don't know, like in that situation? Let's say they've been employed for let's say 20 years and they're looking to start something. Like where do they start?

Candice Lazar
Gosh, well, if you are starting absolutely from scratch, then I would say it's easiest to start with the skills you already have. So think about, you know, what can you do with skills you already have? What would make sense based on what you've already been doing? Start there, right? And then you can start shifting over. But it just, terms of ⁓ lowest, ⁓ lowest friction, right? Start with what you know.

So if you wanted to do something on your own, then I would say it's like sit down and think about, okay, this is my profession. What do people want to know about my profession? Start thinking about questions people have, start doing some research, right? Try to get into the minds of the people that you'd be working with. But it's tough too. There's a balancing act. You need to do some research and you need to get started. can't wait too long. You've got to get moving. So especially with, you mentioned AI.

Use AI. Make use of AI. It is a tool that's out there for you. It is something that you can choose to feel threatened by, but it is also something that you can choose to let you be helpful in whatever you want to do. So if you want to start a new business, then I would absolutely start consulting with AI and telling it, you know, my background, my story and what I want. Help me out. Let's get started. Jam with me, AI. Get me going here. ⁓ That's probably how I would start.

Christian
Yeah.

Candice Lazar
brand new from scratch if I had no idea what I was doing.

Christian
Very cool. And what would you like from your experience because you you've been business around breath work with 44 breath work and the breath well taken. Like what was your journey? Like tell us a little bit about your entrepreneurial journey of like, you know, the beginning was like this and then it got like that. Like what's your like from practitioner to business owner? What's your journey?

Candice Lazar
So, I'm a lawyer. I was working as a lawyer and I once found a banner ad about learning to write, learning copywriting. And well, even before I was a lawyer, I should say, a long, time ago, I worked in marketing in advertising production and post-production.

So I would have advertising agencies would come to the business that I worked at and we would work with them to create video, to do their graphics, their social media, all that stuff. At the time it was a lot more TV commercials. Now it would be a lot more social campaigns and whatnot that they do. But so I worked in that field. I really enjoyed it.

I moved and I went to law school when I moved ⁓ for a few reasons. I overall saw it kind of as a good business degree. I saw it as a way to meet people. A lot of people in my family became lawyers. I went to law school later in life. So I thought, you know what, this is going to be useful for you. do this. Then when I was in law school, I thought, you you're learning to practice law.

You should do that. What you're working with here, go see it if you like it since you're learning this. So I went to practice law for a bit. And I really, it wasn't my favorite thing. So I was already looking for other opportunities and I had seen this banner ad about learning copywriting.

And having enjoyed that marketing job, I did all of our internal marketing at that company. So I thought, you know, I like this. This is a grief. But I didn't know I could be a copywriter without having an advertising degree. So, wow, I'm going to go learn this. So I immediately, you know, I had been trying to think about, and I just said a minute ago, right? Like, if you're starting from scratch, work with something that you already know. I was looking at doing kind of a legal adjacent based business, kind of a licensing type of a thing. And I was starting to explore that.

Then I discovered copywriting and I thought, I really love that, go do this. This is what you're going to do instead. So I got further and further into copywriting. I eventually left my job as a lawyer ⁓ and I eventually joined someone's team as a copywriter, kind of as a permalancer. So I was very much embedded in this team, but I still had a lot of freedom and a lot of flexibility outside of there.

which was really great. So writing more copy for different types of clients, but I really was with this one client very much. I really liked his stuff. He helped entrepreneurs launch their products into the world. So I really believe in his cause and believed in him.

And I was on his team for five years. went from writing copy to running that team. And then I went on that vacation where I got very sick and I had already been a little, a little bit stressed heading into that trip, but that trip was a little bit of an epiphany for me. And I thought, okay, you're definitely stressed. You you need to think about making some changes. And then I started exploring breath work and I realized, oh my gosh, you've been here for five years. Five years is a long time to be in one place. Maybe it's time to try something new.

So I left that company and I knew I was going to be starting my breathwork certification, but I had a little bit of time before then. So I also started doing a marketing business before then. So I also work with clients to help them launch. I do kind of launch planning VIP days. So where I get together with people for just a day and help them make sure they've got everything ready for their launch. They've got their offer mapped out. They know there's no questions left, right? They have all the moving parts.

They know overall what the messaging arc is going to be, what each email is going to say, what the page is going to look like, all that stuff. So I had started doing that with them because I had time before my breathwork training. Then I had my breathwork training and now it's kind of all just one big, I do much more breathwork now than I do the marketing because that's kind of, you know, it seems like it's hard to give equal attention to two things, right? One is going to always overtake the other and breathwork has kind of overtaken the other.

That's how I got here, somewhat convoluted for sure.

Christian
Yeah,

but that's beautiful. think, you know, a lot of people these days are, you know, all humans are just so multifaceted, whether we know it or not. Right. And once we find out that we are, we're just like, well, I don't only want to do one thing, right. Because it's fun to do both. It's just maybe you do this 70 % of your time and the other thing 30 % of your time. Right. So, um, sounds like what you, that's what you found throughout life. And, um, you know,

Currently, what do you think with all your experience in a different kind of tapestries of industries that you've seen, what do you think the world needs now? Whether that is in a business sense or in a personal society sense, what do you think the world needs more of?

Candice Lazar
Empathy. I mean, that's the number one thing I think. think period right now there is a lot of myopia, a lot of...

selfishness. ⁓ It's very pervasive. Yes, I mean, when you said like, does the world mean to It is literally the first thing that pops into my head is empathy. So we need more of that. And peace as well. Definitely need more of that. You know, in a business sense, what does the world mean

It's tough, know, I guess I would say the world needs more. If you think about something like the music industry, it's become so fragmented over time, right? Things we used to see in the music industry, ⁓ the popularity level of an artist at the time, like Michael Jackson or like Nirvana.

Aside from very few artists right now, you don't see artists at that level anymore. You don't see very many, like a Taylor Swift level person because audiences are so fragmented, right? There are so many platforms and so many different ways for you to share your thing and places for you to put it out and to find your people that we don't need these mass, these mass things. We don't need huge companies and huge conglomerates.

So I would say that the world needs more individuality and creativity. But I really, I really, I mean that at a true level, like creativity, you you see people come out, there are trends and a lot, lot of the time I'm trying to think of a good example. So one trend in business right now is, ⁓ is, is creating, is teaching people to create their own

bot army, right? And I shouldn't say army, like bot team, right? Create your own bot team. can get rid of your real human team and you can just have a bot for this and a bot for that, a bot for the other thing, and it runs your whole business. And so that's a big trend right now. And you see a lot of different people doing that.

And that's fine. It's very cool. But make sure that you're putting your own spin on it. Like make sure that if you're going to do that, it really is your own version of it and that you're offering something different and cool about it. Whether it's a bonus that's different, whether it's your framework that's different, whether it's something. you know, the world needs, there's absolutely room for more of that, but make sure that you're really bringing your own uniqueness to it. That's what the business world needs.

Christian
Yeah, yeah, I love that. was going to say in the business world, the answer that came to me was the world needs more of you. You know, so it's funny that you say that, that you said that as well, you know, because I think when you bring more of you into the business, right, that automatically means more authenticity, more passion, more of your interests. What do you really want to launch? Like what product do you want to sell? A sleeping pillow? Or do you want to sell? I don't know.

herbal tea because you really love herbal tea. So there's so many things that you can do. I think if you are about to start a business or if you're thinking about to start a business, then start one that is about you in one way or another, not completely, but in a tangent way.

Candice Lazar
Agreed.

And it's just easier to not resist that. I really, I several years, first few years, I started copywriting about a decade ago and I really tried to like hide the fact that I was a lawyer. I did not talk about, I did not sign things with Esquire afterwards, any of that. And it really made things a lot harder for myself than I needed to. And I just want to tell people now like, you don't have to stay in what you're doing if you're not happy with it.

Start with what you know, it's just easier that way and it's going to be a lot more efficient for you to do that. I wish I had leaned into that more.

Christian
Yeah.

Yeah, people, you yeah, I guess, you know, did, obviously you did it for a reason, right? You don't want to confuse people like, oh, she's like this, you know? But at the end of the day, I think a lot of people resonate with someone who has, who wears multiple hats because a lot of people do as well. You know, not only at home, but also in a professional sense. So tell us a little bit about your breathwork practice. What would you recommend for someone

to do, morning, evening, how long, which practice or practices that you can recommend for people to try, what's your, yeah, what are your go-tos.

Candice Lazar
So I tend to really do like a lot of, like I think I mentioned earlier, kind of a morning and a midday and an after work and then evening. And then I might do other breath work, know, little bits throughout the day, just kind of as I feel like it. In the morning, you know, if you want to do something that's energizing, the key to your breath really is the length of your inhale compared to the length of your exhale.

That is what's going to control how you feel. So in the morning, if you want a little bit of energy, then you want a slightly longer inhale and a shorter exhale, or you want a fuller inhale, like a more energetic, bringing more air in, right? So one thing that is good for

⁓ Especially if you're a beginner, I would say you don't want to get too crazy with this because you could get a little bit lightheaded. But just 20 full deep breaths. And when I say full deep breaths, know, lot of people keep their breath weight up here in their chest. You want to bring your you want to bring your breath down way into your belly. You know, think about it. And for some people, you've got to focus, you know, think for a minute and feel that expansion because they're really used to keeping their breath, their breath so high. But I would say if you could take 20 kind of, you know, quick, quick, full breaths,

in through the nose, out through the mouth kind of, you know, it feels a little bit of like huffing and puffing, but not where you're controlling it. That's the key. Maintain control here and you're doing 20. And if you feel lightheaded before then like, then stop. That's one that I would do for a starter. wouldn't get too long into doing holds that much if I was just starting.

That is also an energizing technique that's also good for after lunch too, right? Because you're digesting, you've got a lot of blood that's going all into your stomach. It's leaving your brain, you're getting fuzzy, you're getting tired. So that's good for that as well. Now for a more down-shifting type of a breath, if you're trying to calm yourself, then you want to have probably a longer exhale than inhale.

So one thing that I like to do often is I will just double the length of my inhale. I might do, I very often do a four count inhale and then I'll do an eight count exhale. Sometimes I'll do a three and a six. There are also a lot of breaths that are kind of more, you know, equal in pattern, making sure that things that are equal in length, like we talked about with box breathing, where there's something called resonant breathing, which is five second inhale, five second exhale.

That's probably, would say, resonant breathing is the thing I do the most throughout the day. Like midday, if I get up from my desk to go refresh my water or something, if I think of it on my way there, I'll start doing some resonant breathing. That's kind of my usual go-to throughout the day.

Then I would say in bed at night. I specifically when I get in bed I like to do 10 really full slow belly breaths once I'm laying down I put I put a hand on my belly a hand on my chest and I and I just go so slowly Breathe in really slow let it fill breathe out really really slow slow as possible and it just turns into this kind of gluey You know almost kind of meditation things. I'm trying to fall asleep

Christian
Hmm, I love that. And what are other practices or habits that you would say that keep you in alignment, you know, in addition to your breath?

Candice Lazar
I'm a big fan of working out. think physical activity is really important. So I work out usually four to five days a week. also, I've gotten in a habit and this was not, I didn't intend to do this, but it's stuck and I really like it is when I get up,

from my desk, when I come back to my desk, ⁓ I will do a set of 10 push-ups and I try to do that 10 times a day. So I end up with 10 sets of 10 throughout the day. It's not, it's not, it's kind of like the band-aids, right? It's not super disruptive to your day, but it gives you a little bit of movement, little burst of energy, you know, changes things up for a second. And then by the end of the day, you did a hundred, a hundred push-ups that you wouldn't have done otherwise. So

Christian
Yeah, I love that. That's great. I like these little like add-ins to life. know, like for me, one thing I always do is like I sit down with tea when I sit down for a longer work session, just because it's like something that accompanies me, that gives me going, there's some, you know, tastes and like, you know, experience there for me that just like, this is so nice. You know, how cozy I can sit down and do my work here with my computer. Yeah. So these little things, I think that's also for me where it's like

Candice Lazar
Yeah. Yeah.

Christian
Because those are the ones that actually going to become a habit eventually. So that's why I think those are just the most accessible and approachable ones. I love that you shared those. ⁓

Candice Lazar
Yeah, I don't know if you know the tiny habits framework from Dr. BJ Fogg. actually, Dr. Fogg is the one who James Clear, everyone knows who James Clear is for Atomic Habits, James Clear learned from Dr. Fogg. And so Dr. Fogg's book, Tiny Habits is actually, older than Atomic Habits. Same type of thing. It's, you know, it's the micro things, it's the small steps, it's, you know, getting those little things solidified as the habits that are really

Christian
Yeah. ⁓

Candice Lazar
know what's that cliche? A big door swing on small hinges, right? It really is small things that can make a big difference and that you're going to want to stick with because it's small enough to be able to do.

Christian
Hmm. Yeah. I love that. So tell us a little bit about your current offerings. Like what type of products or services do you offer and how or why? Just a little bit or a little overview.

Candice Lazar
Sure. Well, ⁓ as I mentioned, my other business, I've got those VIP planning days, but I'm actually trying to think about what would it look like to have a ⁓ breathwork VIP day? What does that look like? So that's something that I'm mulling over. But things I actually have in my business right now, my main thing that I usually promote is a membership.

It's kind of like an a la carte subscription in a way. It's, you you log in and it's available on all, you know, mobile, tablet, whatever, PC, and it's got audios, videos, PDFs, all different types of breathing techniques and other nervous system trainings and tools. So that's like my main thing. And then it's got, for people to be able to go in and use when they want, you know, kind of at will, how much time do you have? If you only have a minute, here's a short one.

If you have an hour, here's a long breath work journey like you talked about doing at that event and getting kind of like, woo, all crazy. But there's also a monthly coaching component with that, so people can have some interaction and they can get some ⁓ help from me, some guidance as far as breath work or other stuff as well. So that's really my main thing that I promote day to day. I also have an eight week. ⁓

coaching program, like a live coaching program that I run a couple times during the year. And that's also a kind of a nervous system support toolbox, very much based on breath work, but a few other things as well, things that I personally had have discovered and found really helpful and interesting. And so I want to share that with my audience. So we do stuff like we talk about polyvagal theory and energy mapping and internal family systems and things like that.

So yeah, that's how I can really also get to share and teach personally. And then I've got a few other things in the works too. I've got some smaller little packages, like packages of things from my membership that you can buy. A few recordings here and there, a few things that I'm coming out with.

for Black Friday and then probably into next year. And I'm thinking about doing more live stuff. Is it gonna be a T? I've taught a live class in the past that's not the same as the coaching program. Do I do that? Do I do more of a one-to-one? I'm not sure what it's gonna look like, but something else there. I know that people want different levels of support. And I know that people wanna invest different levels of time and different levels of money. And I wanna be able to meet people where they're at.

something for them regardless of where they're at.

Christian
Beautiful. And where can people find all that? What's the best way to find out about that?

Candice Lazar
probably through my website, 44breathwork.com.

And on my website, you can sign up. There's a couple of red buttons. There's a big red button in the upper right corner, and there's a red button in the center of the screen. And you can sign up through those buttons to get five of my favorite breathing techniques that can help you change how you feel in less than five minutes. Again, more breathwork band-aids, but short, impactful, easy to do. So you can sign up there, and then you'd be on my list, and you'd be staying in my world.

Christian
Beautiful. love that. yeah, another, we're coming towards the end of the podcast, but I'd love to ask you a couple more questions. in terms of your entrepreneurial journey, who or what inspires you the most currently?

Candice Lazar
⁓ You know there are a few coaches whose stuff I open more often than that. Well and having said that there's actually someone whose emails I don't open as much anymore but so there's a coach I used to follow a lot who was kind of a

like a little bit of like a business rebel coach. And it seems like over the past couple years, she seems to have found religion. She seems to have turned a bit more Christian. And so I do not follow her stuff anymore because it's not for me. However, having watched that shift and watching her stay true to herself and making that shift, it was neat to see.

⁓ There's a couple other coaches I follow. There's one person I follow who I had only really discovered about a year ago and I like her stuff and I like her level of spirituality. It's definitely there in her business but still ⁓ very practical and it feels original. But she's about to close down her business. She's like, know what, nothing is wrong.

It just feels complete. I'm ready to move on. I want to talk about other stuff. I want to spend my money in different ways. And so it's kind of sad for those of us that follow her, but also really inspiring. So that's a good example, you know? So I guess seeing people, would say seeing people who have, who are making shifts and staying true to themselves while they're doing it is something I find, I find really inspiring. And I was also talking with some friends the other day. I was telling them how my

My husband has a friend who discovered that a kid in his fraternity from the university that he graduated from like decades ago.

is one of the winners of like this massive lottery jackpot that just that just was drawn a few weeks ago. Like this kid is suddenly like he's probably already withdrawn from school. There's no need for him to go to college anymore, right? Like he's got like nine figure wealth. And so I was talking with my friends and we're like, what would you do if you just had like nine figure wealth like that overnight? And just to imagine some of the things that you would do and starting to think about, do I actually need nine figure wealth to

that. Like I probably can start doing some of those things now, right, and staking some of these steps now, right? So even just letting things like that, that conversation, I never really expected it to turn out to be inspiring for us, but I think it kind of was. So I don't know, it's everywhere, sometimes in places you don't expect it to be.

Christian
Yeah, I love that. Beautiful. Well, yeah, I'd love to ask you one more question and then, you know, close out the podcast. So just, you know, the last part of the podcast, I always like to give it over to the guests of the show and just ask them what are their, you know, future aspirations, future goals? Like, where do you see yourself, your brand going and evolving? What do look...

Candice Lazar
⁓ You know, I think I will probably end up kind of combining my two businesses more, would be my guess. I'm especially finding myself interested in thinking about breathwork for business. What does that look like? How do we talk about breathwork for your launch? ⁓

breathwork for other things. Breathwork as far as decision making before you do something financial or a hiring decision or whatever. So I keep thinking about that and I wouldn't be surprised to see myself do something with that. Breathwork for launches or breathwork for lawyers. I can imagine going that way. But I don't exactly know what it looks like. Yeah.

That's probably as specific as I can get right now. mean, I have others, you know, I have goals as far as like, I would like to write a book, for example, at some point. But I would be getting this stuff figured out before I would write the book. You know, those are things that are later, things that are immediate. I almost view them as net goals, but it's like, yes, I'm starting that campaign soon. So it's not a goal. So yeah, I would say vision, vision overall is probably to combine business and breath work.

Christian
Beautiful. Well, we wish you lots of fun on that journey. It's been an honor to have you on. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and your heart with us on the podcast. Anything else you would like to leave the audience with?

Candice Lazar
If there's one thing you're always doing, it's breathing. So just think about it. If you even just thinking about your breathing, paying attention to your breathing, noticing, you know, feeling the air coming in your nose, thinking about the fact that you're letting it back out, noticing your breathing is going to start changing your life. You really can.

Christian
I love it. Thank you so much, Candice.

Candice Lazar
Thank you. I'm

glad to be here.