Ginette Biro: Channeling Higher Dimensions, Spirit-Led Business & Energetic Alignment | Ep57

Ginette Biro is a world class medium, channeling beings from the 4th to 12th dimensions. She connects people to the other side and brings messages to inspire and inform our world. She is clairaudient, clairvoyant, clairsentient, and claircognizant – she can hear, see, feel, and know – information and communication from spirit and other dimensions.  Ginette has many spirit guides, angels, and galactics who are guiding her to support the planet in its ascension.

In addition to these remarkable gifts, Ginette has spent soul time on the other side through a near-death experience that allowed her to see and understand how our life blueprint and soul’s journey works.  She has crossed over and back and has unique insight to guide others on their life path.  She is one of the rare people that is both a spiritual medium and has had a near-death experience. She is dedicated to using that knowledge and her gifts to support people on their journey.

In this episode of the Successful Spiritualpreneur Podcast, Christian sits down with Ginette Biro—renowned multidimensional channel, medium, and founder of Avalon Spirit. Known for her ability to connect with beings from the 4th to 12th dimensions, Ginette offers profound insight into what it means to run a soul-led business while staying grounded in real life as a mother, mentor, and conscious creator.

If you’re a spiritual entrepreneur navigating burnout, questioning your next steps, or seeking deeper alignment with your purpose, this episode delivers powerful guidance, channeled wisdom, and grounded tools to help you grow your business from a place of clarity, authenticity, and energetic integrity.

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Core Themes

• Spiritual entrepreneurship in a multidimensional world
• Channeling 4D to 12D beings
• Energetic boundaries and burnout prevention
• Balancing 3D family life with higher spiritual calling
• Receiving business guidance from spirit guides
• Using AI and astrology as tools for awakening
• The rise of authentic leadership in spiritual business
• Collective awakening, soul-purpose, and conscious creation

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Transcript

Christian
What's up beautiful people, this is Christian from the Successful Spiritualpreneur Podcast and today I'm very excited to have Ginette Biro on the podcast. She is a world-class medium and channels beings from the fourth and twelfth dimensions. She connects people to the other side and brings messages to inspire and inform our world. She's clairaudient, clairvoyant, clairsentient and claircognizant.

She can hear, see, feel, and know information and communication from spirit in other dimensions. has many spirit guides, angels, and galactics who are guiding her, supporting the planet in its ascension. And in addition to these remarkable gifts, Ginette has spent soul time on the other side through a near-death experience that allowed her to see and understand how our life blueprint and soul's journey work. Welcome to the show, Ginette.

Ginette Biro
Thank you so much for having me. I'm happy to be here.

Christian
I love it. I'm so excited. personally, you know, this is the Successful Spiritualpreneur Podcast. So I'm always excited when we get people who are, I would say more on the channeling side and spiritual side as well, because for me personally, these are kind of the pioneers of the day and age. I feel like the entrepreneurs, like that they work more in the matrix, right? We make things tangible and bring it here, kind of like make it more solid.

feels like. But people like yourself who, know, our channel really feel like are more tapped into the higher realms. So I'd love to start off by, you know, just, you know, wondering what's going on in your life currently that keeps you excited and engaged.

Ginette Biro
⁓ currently.

⁓ My gosh, so much. I mean, I'm in my 3D life. I'm a very busy mom of two kids who are heavily involved in sports. I mean, although I do the channeling and mediumship and I talk to spirit, life keeps me very busy. And then, of course, running a business is like there's so much on the back end of running a business, especially when you're an entrepreneur. It's unbelievable. I'm lucky to have a wonderful business partner.

Christian
Mmm.

Ginette Biro
But it's a really interesting balance between family, daily tasks, business tasks, like left brain tasks, and then the balance of the spirit world popping in and sharing insights and seeing through different dimensional veils and stuff. mean, life to me is pretty inspiring every day in its own unique way, from big epiphanies to...

big wins in the sports for my kids to quiet moments where get to reflect on everything. So it's really this, I think I've been really learning in the last couple of years of having experienced lots of illnesses and recovery to really value the moments and see the positive even in say flight delays or canceled flights or plans that fall through. It's like, what could this be?

Like what is the reason for this? There might be something more and what can we discover? I think living a life through a lens of curiosity really helps to bring that presence in every day. Now I have to clarify too, I don't do this perfectly. Okay, it's not that I perfectly have this figured out and I float through life with ease and grace. have moments where I'm like, what the heck is going on? But it's bringing all of that to the table that

really has me inspired right now.

Christian
I love that so much. Yeah, I have a little one too and I know the balance between business and family life and personal life is such a fascinating rhythm that we go through every single day, week and year. It's very interesting to see and sometimes like the lines are so blurry, right? Like you feel like I'm not making any progress at all in my business, right? And then you look back later, you're really like, oh.

Oh, all this stuff happened. Wow. I can't believe it, you know, because I feel in this, constantly showing up for your family, yourself, your business. Like these are the things that really, yeah, they're just like every day, nudge your business forward. And it's really interesting to, yeah, I human, for us, it's just hard to understand these little incremental, like it's, it's, it's, it's, it's very easy to see a big contrast for human beings, right? Hot and cold, big and big and big and, you know, small, but

Ginette Biro
Yeah. Yeah.

Christian
to like the small, like we just kind of like the frog that sits in the water and don't really care, nothing's changing, you know? But ⁓ I love that you ⁓ noticed that about your life and how does your channeling help you to stay aligned in that way, in that sense?

Ginette Biro
I think I'm really grateful for the capacity to tap into them. ⁓ cause it helps me see the bigger picture. Like when I, when I talk to spirit, they love to explain the bigger picture theme of something, whatever it is. And I find that perspective very helpful to keep me from getting stuck in the rut of the, just the human me that can fall into poor me, why me, ⁓ it's not fair. All that kind of victim thinking that.

Christian
Hmm.

Ginette Biro
I I think when we talk about victim mentality right now, and I mean in the poor me version, right? I think ⁓ there's almost a judgment with it. And I think we need more grace with the idea of that because life right now for a lot of people is very challenging. The ascension, the growth, the change on our planet and our systems and government, our consciousness, like so much is happening at every level right now.

that it's understandable for people to get to a point of like, I don't know what to do, I'm overwhelmed, why me, what's going on, what's the point, right? So I say that victim mentality with a lot of grace, but what I find is in those moments, being able to channel and talk to spirit and see things from their perspective just to get a fresh lens helps pop me out of whatever I'm whirling in to kind of look at it with fresh eyes and then choose, okay, what am I gonna do about it now?

And I find that I'm very, very grateful, very grateful for that connection.

Christian
That's beautiful. Yeah, there's a lot. think it's like same right now on the outside life. Like there's so many things going on, like, you know, as you said, and so many levels that it's like even hard to like follow everything, of course, and then just like realize how many things are changing. Yeah, it's very interesting to see. And so you, you like,

You channel beings from the fourth to 12th dimension. How do you explain this to potential clients who might be skeptical to new spiritual concepts? How do you, yeah.

Ginette Biro
Yeah,

right. Very fair question. So I remember a long, long time ago when I started to be able to visually see spirit so I could see them with my eyes. And I call that 4D physical. So it's not physical in the reality that we're speaking in right now in 3D, but in the 4D frequency, it's physical to me. I'm seeing it with my eyes. And so what would happen is it would just happen some days and then some days not. And I couldn't make it

So one day I said, I'm like, what is happening? How does this even work? And am I going crazy? Right? And my guide said, they said it all has to do with frequency. And so if you think about it, all things vibrate, right? We will learn this in high school science, right? They're like, all things vibrate. Your pencil is vibrating matter, right? Within the range of third dimensional reality, which is what makes it solid, right? As soon as you begin to vibrate beyond 3D,

you start to become aware of things in higher dimensions. And the higher and the higher and the higher you can vibrate, the more you can see ⁓ unseeable things. You can see the unseen world. You can see frequencies. You can see energy. You can see beings. You can see different timelines, different realities, even reality overlays, all of which I would have thought was completely crazy had I not seen it myself. And so it's basically about

navigating the frequency you're in and learning as a medium how to increase my frequency and then also lower my frequency so that when I go grocery shopping I'm not tapped into sixth dimension walking through the grocery store completely overwhelmed by everything. So it's just a matter of adjusting the speed of my energetic frequency to be able to see up to certain dimensions. Now the second part of that is I can raise my frequency so high

But when spirits from different dimensions communicate, they have to lower their frequency to match mine. So in terms of like a 12 dimensional being, I'm not necessarily raising my frequency to 12 dimension, but I'm raising it as fast or as high as I possibly can, kind of like doing a sprint. And then they join in to meet me where I'm at, which would kind of be like, instead of just sprinting on the ground, you're now sprinting on a moving sidewalk.

Christian
Mmm.

Ginette Biro
Right? So

they come in with that momentum to help me keep up to whatever rate we can match. So that's kind of how it works.

Christian
Beautiful. I love that explanation and the visual as well. And what do you think is, I guess, the biggest challenge in building a business around, you know, spiritual gifts that people don't necessarily understand themselves often?

Ginette Biro
Yeah, the judgment is a real thing. And I think with spiritual based businesses too, it's something that has to be experienced. and again, this will be a more general statement, but it's never about convincing people. What I've learned, a spiritual business, you can't convince somebody that this is how it is. You can merely offer information.

Christian
Hmm.

Ginette Biro
for them to experience by their own free will. And once they've had the experience, then they understand. And then they want to come back. But you cannot force spirituality on people. It has to be experienced. And I think there's so many different ways it can be experienced and so many pathways, which is why I always say that building a spiritual business should be based on the sharing of stories and the sharing of information for people to take it or leave it based on what resonates with them because

in the very end, all things lead to the same pool, whether you follow a religion, whether you follow spirituality, whether you follow intuition, whatever you want to call it, in the end, they all lead back to this giant pool of love, consciousness, right? So in our different lifetimes, we're all having different experiences to gain knowledge and wisdom, and we have to take various paths, which is why I don't think anyone can ever say,

my way is the way or this one religion is the way and the other ones are wrong. All the paths eventually lead to that. Some are very dark and twisted paths that eventually lead you to your light. Some are more ascended paths but it depends so much on the individual journey. So again a spiritual business has to be made with a desire at the root to share stories and information and leave it at that.

Christian
I love it. And how do you handle like the business side of mediumship while maintaining an integrity of your spiritual work and telling those stories?

Ginette Biro
⁓ Luckily, I have a wonderful business partner who has been a CEO of a lot of different companies. She's very well versed in the business aspect of it. So it's been a beautiful thing for me to be able to step back from that and allow her to do more of those parts. Whereas I do more of like the content and the courses and the creation and honing my gifts, which has been great because before that I was doing everything on my own.

and trying to balance that was definitely challenging because it's like you have to shift frequencies that you're in. So if I've been doing readings all day, I'm in a very high frequency and to try and bring that energy, even though I lower it, to try and bring that energy and do spreadsheets and replying to all these emails and locking in dates for this and this, my brain is not in that pattern. It's not in the linear logical.

So I would have to save that to another day, right? Where I wake up fresh and then I can be more left brain. So it takes a lot of compartmentalizing, but also really recognizing where is your energy at and like having strong boundaries with self. Because there's many times where I've tried to do everything and I just burn myself out. Right? So it's definitely a balance. I think it's a balance for any kind of business, but I think especially with spiritual based or artistic creative

businesses, there has to be energy balancing and honoring the art or the expression or the spirit of it and then energy balancing the business part. So it's definitely two hats.

Christian
Hmm. And how do you, like, how do you protect your energy while doing all this work professionally? Like for example, doing readings or data is, I would say, a lot of energetic work. Like what do do to protect your energy?

Ginette Biro
I've had to really learn boundaries. So I've had to learn first of all, how much energy do I technically have available in a day for readings? And then also still have energy available for my family and my life and so on after. So I've had to really learn through a lot of trial and error how much I can give. First of all, I've also had to learn

what boundaries look like for me in readings. I remember when I first started doing readings like many, moons ago, I would just keep answering questions. would have an hour set aside for reading and the readings would go to two hours because people just kept asking questions. And I felt that because I had this gift, I have to give them whatever answers I can possibly glean. Like I need to burn myself into the ground to let them be completely satisfied and fulfilled when they leave.

Even if it takes up all my energy, I felt like it was my duty. And I had to learn over time that my duty is actually to honor self first and bring what I can through and honor the time that is created for this and really to stand firm to it. Because if I disregarded this vessel and this being and me in the process, then there was nothing left of me after. So it's like really strong boundaries.

Christian
Mm.

Mmm.

Hmm. And when you work with people or let's say specifically, for example, in our case, let's say entrepreneurs, right? Like how do you help them or not sure if you've done that in the past, maybe. Um, but how do you help them understand like what's their sole purpose versus what's their like ego desires in their business?

Ginette Biro
That's a really neat thing. So I've had the opportunity to do a fair amount of mentorship with entrepreneurs. And it's been an amazing journey, which is so unique to each individual. But basically what I would do is I would tap into their spirit guides and they would come to me with questions of like, should I do this with my business? Should I do that? Should I make this step? Should I partner with this person? And I would just ask their spirit guide.

And their spirit guides would give the most interesting information. Sometimes it would be like, ⁓ partner option A, not good, not trustworthy, continue exploring partner option B, right? So sometimes we get a very clear answer that way. Other times we would get an answer of, ⁓ spirit's not gonna give you the answer because what is it you want to create from here? You haven't created enough. You haven't brought enough of you to the table. So what does that look like? And then we would go and explore that. And so,

It's actually really neat to see how much the spirit world is wanting to help influence or not influence, but help us in our entrepreneurial spirit and how many people who are entrepreneurs actually have spirit guides that are well versed in that. Meaning they have had lifetimes where they have grown businesses, they have the knowledge and they help bring in sometimes these beautifully inspired ideas where

You know, you may be walking down the street one day and you have this genius idea of a new offering or a new structure to your business. You're like, I don't know where it came from. Just popped into my head. Oftentimes that's your spirit guides coming through, bringing in this like pocketed idea for you to take it and run with it. So it's really, it's really unique and individual to each person, but it's amazing what the spirit world can offer in terms of growing our businesses. And here's the last thing I want to say with that is that

When we are growing a business based on a passion or a purpose, right? Like a reason, like a raison d'etre, right? Like a reason of being, the reason you want this, like what it speaks from you. There's often a lot more energetic support versus creating a business just for the dollar value. Yeah. And it's interesting to see. Yeah.

Christian
Hmm. Yeah. I thought it's that too.

And now I just like, I have just started businesses that were like soul led. Like so it's early on in my life. I learned that lesson. Um, it's very interesting how that kind of like just was like a thread through my life. You know, like I started, um, I'm from Germany, growing up there. Yeah. And, uh, I started my first, my parents are entrepreneurs. So was like, I'm going to start a business. I'm not going to work for anyone.

⁓ so I started a bracelet brand. was all around love rope, right? It was like a little brand like ⁓ hand hammer in three to five words. I guess very, very, very intentional. Didn't take off, right? Because, you know, it's a jewelry, you know, the demand is not that high. If you have, don't have a lot of marketing budgets. And then I switched to making websites because I loved how functional and design like the world of like

design and functioning that combination with that brought for people's businesses and lives. And then that's where Love Pixel came from, like the agency, now the agency. And ⁓ our mission, like with the bracelet was the same with the agency, the mission was to make love tangible, right? Because I feel a lot of people out there that don't really believe in love, to put it simply, like they're just like, yeah, it's there maybe.

Ginette Biro
Yeah. ⁓

Yeah. Yeah.

Christian
Maybe not, you know what mean? like, I wanted to give them examples, like physical, tangible examples, like a bracelet or a website, like something you can see and experience that makes them realize, there's something more in that bracelet or website or thing that comes from my source expression, right? So to make love tangible. And then the third company, which I started two years ago, is a tea company. It's called One with Tea.

And the purpose there is to get tea out into the world. You know, it's such a magical plant. ⁓ yeah, one with tea, because I feel tea just brings people into alignment and presence in so many ways that you understand. yeah, it's very cool that you say that, because it very much resonates with my path and what I've experienced.

Ginette Biro
Yeah,

yeah, that's amazing. I love that. And I love that. Like, I think with the entrepreneurial mind is to really blend it with what comes from the heart, right? Like your path of how you have made your way in through your businesses, right? Has been these like creative led ideas that really are, like you said, like they're all building on the principle of love.

right, and the various ways we can experience it and show it and give it and all of that. And it's just, I think that's a neat, amazing thing about those that have that entrepreneurial mind is the unlimitedness that it actually has available if we tap into a root source of it.

Christian
Yeah, yeah, I love that. Sometimes, you know, when I meet other people, I'm just like, yeah, we're all just doing the same thing. We're all just expressing love in a different way, you know? So, yeah, yeah, it's cool to see how creative the universe and we are, right? So, you know, I would love to, you know, shift the conversation a little bit more towards maybe AI and the impact of it, which...

we may not be experts in, we know it's a big topic and a big thing. And with that comes, I would say, a big redefinition of what people are going to do with their time and their life and being able to have all this time available. ⁓

So yeah, what guidance do have for people who either feel they're not living the true mission or get fired or have the opportunity for a new start or just, you know, are at a point where they want to start a new business, like anything that comes through.

Ginette Biro
Well, in terms of connecting it to AI, think AI is a wonderful tool for helping root out the questions maybe you're needing to ask yourself, to find what those root values are, or maybe find the core things. Because the thing with AI is, I mean, there's a lot of conversation about whether it's conscious yet, is it not conscious, is it sentient, is it, you know, people are...

bonded too tightly to their chat GPT person, whatever name it's given, right? But the thing is, I think if we use our consciousness and we utilize the tool that is AI as it is right now and set it up in a way that it's like, if you were to say like, here are the things I enjoy doing, this is where I'm at in my life and this is how I'm feeling. What would you suggest are some avenues I could begin to explore that I maybe haven't thought of for a new business or company?

Right? Like, it can, it'll just blow up all these ideas. And I think AI is a really valuable tool as like a brainstorming partner. And I think when we start to trigger that brainstorming openness in our minds is when we can really start to find a new direction because there are so many people right now sitting at this precipice, like collectively, where they're being asked to go in a new direction. A lot of people have

quit their corporate job or they were let go from their traditional job and they're sitting there thinking, what am I going to do now? And as scary as that is in that position, they're standing in front of the unknown, but the unknown is something that's not written yet. So it's waiting for creativity. And so I think we can use AI in that way to be a idea bouncing partner right now to help bring through some new potential trigger points.

of where can we add consciousness into the world? What can that look like? And I think it's important with that for people to stay really curious. I think what's happening right now is because the world, depending on the lens you look at it, is really hard. And I think if people keep curiosity about themselves and about life and about evolution, then it's helping us to continue to move in the right direction.

So I think that's kind of how I see AI right now, if that makes sense.

Christian
Yeah, I love that. I think that's a really great summary, to be honest, because we don't need to dive too deep. But that's really the purpose of the tool I find. And it's such a mirror, because the minute I start going into like, yeah, I want to do this, and it's like, yeah, go do it. But have I validated it? Have I really thought about it? I find myself oftentimes just like, this is so easy.

You know, let's just go down this route and then you just say, well, that's not really what my heart is. Right. So I need to check in with myself, not just great tool, great tool, great tool. Let's follow the tool. Let's follow the whatever, you know, nodes. Let's follow the data nodes. ⁓ but yeah, not forgetting about the spirit in the action. It's very, it's going to be so interesting, like merging. Biology, human nature with like technology.

Ginette Biro
Yeah.

Christian
I mean, it's gonna be wild, you know?

Ginette Biro
Well, you know

what's really interesting too, and I don't know if many of your listeners follow astrology, but I'll keep this very simple, is the astrology right now, this year, is a huge transformation. So there's several big planets that are shifting signs which speak to these big changes in biology and technology coming together, in business and spirituality coming together. It's like the merging of

new things that have not been created yet. We're literally in that energetic frequency within the astrology right now. So it's a very transformational pivot point moment now where a lot of people are going to be asked to explore what their creative thing is because it's creating new things that have not been here yet.

Christian
Yeah, I love that. Yeah, it's very interesting. If I look just at like macro trends in the industry that I see like on social and web design and stuff like that, feel like, yeah, there's new blue oceans being created, like new categories, right? People start falling.

It's you can't just be business or just be spiritual. It needs to be both. Doesn't need to be, but people would like to see both because they want to see this integration. They want to see someone like Ginette, who is a mom, a channel and an entrepreneur. You know, it's like this for myself. I don't want to be the, the, I don't know, great Cardona entrepreneur. I don't want to be the stay at home mom. And I don't want to be just a spiritual person.

Ginette Biro
Yes. Yep.

Christian
I No, I want to be everything. And I feel this amalgamation of these trends coming together in so many industries, not just business, spirituality and channeling. ⁓ It's, it's kind of create so many new things. feel like, yeah, it's very interesting.

Ginette Biro
Yeah.

You know, and that's interesting because that's sort of what my spirit guides when I first started Avalon spirit. So that's five years ago now. And that's when I partnered with my business partner, Lois. And when we were meeting and starting to create the company, spirit said, like my guides came in really clear. They said one thing you need to remember is this company has to be run in a new way. It cannot follow.

the structured, rigid ways you build a company. Like, it can't strictly follow that. It has to have heart and it has to have flow. And you have to know that if you're pushing water uphill and something's not working, it's not meant to happen yet. You have to release it and you have to find the piece that is. So it's like, they're like, you're needing to discover a new model of what business building is, and you're going to discover it by doing. And so we've had those experiences where

We're trying to do something and it's just not landing. And so we're like, Kate, that's not the thing. Hands off. What is the thing? And I think that's being echoed through a lot of people's businesses right now. And I think that's being echoed in how we're going to start to see societal structures and community structures and maybe even governmental structures at some point, who knows. But it has to, like you're saying, be this new way, a new model of both, not just one and the other.

Christian
Yeah.

I know it's so exciting that we're like at the precipice of this, It's cool, like, yeah. There's so much happening. There's so many things. I just see all these portals opening, you know, for every, for billions of people, you know? ⁓ So exciting.

Ginette Biro
Yes, yes we are.

Yeah, absolutely.

Christian
⁓ I would love to know if you want to channel on this podcast, if you feel comfortable to, or if you're not in the state or surroundings to do so. ⁓ It would be fun if something wants to come through.

Ginette Biro
Yeah, I can definitely see.

Sure, ⁓ let me just see who's there and see if they're available. So I'm just gonna be quiet for a moment with my eyes closed, but hold on.

Okay, so they're actually, it is my guides. ⁓ I channel these guides called the three guides of the light. And when they first came to me in 2020, they showed themselves as three sort of shadow figure outlines, which is not abnormal. But they said, we're not this, but we're showing you this so you realize that we are collective, but we are of light, we are light energy. And they're very high dimensional.

⁓ They're showing me images. So when they come through and start showing me images, that's coming through mediumship. If it's channeling, they just speak right through. So they're coming through a mediumship right now. And they're showing me imagery of ⁓ the level of trauma energy that the world essentially has been living in right now is at like max peak output. And they're saying for so many of us,

So many of you, they're saying, so many of us, ⁓ we've been redlining this adrenaline frequency for so long and many people are starting to feel a huge burnout energetically and it's actually affecting their nervous systems right now. And so they're saying, for those of you that are noticing dysregulation in your nervous system, like anxiety, you cannot get a handle on, fatigue, you cannot get a handle on, body symptoms that you cannot find the root of.

They're saying for a lot of this, has become a nervous system dysregulation. And they're saying when you're trying to create or build a business from a point of significant nervous system dysregulation, it's very challenging because you don't have the energetic output to create it. So they're saying for, for those that are listening to this and feeling like they are in some form of a burnout before they dive into creating the business and the plans and what this is going to be.

They're saying, take the time needed in that pause and the time needed is completely individual. For some, it would be maybe a week. For some, it might be a couple months. Take the time needed to recalibrate and come back to center first so that you can take that red line down into like the green zone again and create from there. Because if you're creating from the green zone, your energetic frequency and ripples are so like they can go so much wider because they're a cohesive

ripple. Whereas when you're creating from a red zone, it's like creating from jagged points and it doesn't ripple evenly. It's jagged and it's much harder. So for those listening, if you feel you're in a panic, total anxiety or complete exhaustion right now, before you start creating or pushing your business, it's about recalibrating you. And so they're saying taking the time to honor you with whether that's sleep, food,

fun, friends, whatever that is, take time to honor you first and wait for the inspirations to start coming back into your being because that point of inspiration is when you know you're starting on the track of creation. But if you're feeling kind of dead in the water with ideas, it's because you need to focus on you first.

Christian
Beautiful. I love that. Yeah, thanks for sharing that with us. ⁓ Yeah, I love how, you know, like this advice is always so applicable for, you know.

anyone's listening, whether you have a burnout or not, like wherever you're creating from a point of calibration that is more aligned is obviously gonna last longer. I feel like the decisions that we make from like love, clarity, alignment, like that point, they of they last longer. If that's like a better expression to say, like I could make a lot of fast decisions and like probably run into more errors if I make it like, go, go, go, go, you know? ⁓

Ginette Biro
Yes.

Yeah.

Christian
And

you can also, you can get as probably as far like also and maybe faster, but you also, you have to like put in more energy to get there, you know, versus the spirit path is always like easy is normal, you know, like I'm German, like we're taught that easy is not normal. You have to put in the work and you have to suffer. And my wife is Cuban. She's like very much in her like easy is normal.

Ginette Biro
Absolutely.

Yep. Yep.

Yeah,

that's right. That's funny. My husband is German too, actually. And it's funny to see ⁓ his capacity to just keep going versus my capacity is very different too. So there is this like absolute strength to the German energy. I have to say like it is just like unstoppable force. ⁓ But I can see too how, you know, that's something that you would probably have to try and balance because you have the capacity.

Christian
Yeah.

Yeah.

Ginette Biro
Right?

So yeah, it's interesting you're partnered with someone that's just so like free flow. Yeah.

Christian
Yeah. Yeah. And also making sure

like the decisions that I do in my life business and in her business, uh, cause she's a spiritual teacher as well are like the right ones. Cause if I pressed on the wrong avenue, like in the beginning, I did that a lot because I was younger and even more so I can do it. can do it. I just like keep pushing. Um, I would constantly just like push in direction where she didn't want to go or was, wasn't ready to go as a business owner.

Ginette Biro
Yeah. Yeah.

Christian
So then I was like wasting my energy. Yeah.

Ginette Biro
Yeah, interesting. My guides are showing me one more thing while you were talking. Just let me get it all here one sec.

the other piece.

yes, thank you. Okay, so they were showing me too that for many that are recognizing this need to kind of recalibrate first, they also have to kind of push out the noise because the people around them are gonna be used to the like super producer energy that they had. And when they see that space being given to recalibrate, they're gonna start questioning like, why aren't you doing anything? Why are you being lazy? What are you doing with your life?

They're going to see the opposite energy and spirit is really encouraging them to just hold steady to what they need because what they're doing in rewriting and balancing their frequency, it's actually going to also send ripples out to those around them. And at first they're going to resist maybe, but then it'll slowly give the others around them permission to do the same because they saw this person do it and recalibrate. So not only are they doing it for themselves first, but then they're becoming a teacher.

Christian
Hmm.

Ginette Biro
or an example for others in their orbit. And that's a powerful thing.

Christian
Yeah, yeah, can, I can contest to that. Like a good example about that in my life would be, you know, growing up in Germany, grew up with like, without electronics. And there was a lot of guilt around like watching TV and this and that. It's like, it's not that it's always bad because you do want to be productive. Like I don't mind being productive, especially as a German, you know, it's like we like to lose. But at some point it's also like detrimental in a way that like, just like, we just can't switch off.

Ginette Biro
Yeah. Yeah.

Christian
Like we always have to do be productive and do something and you can't just enjoy. Like, one thing that my, my wife taught me, in raising my son, like, because we're raising together, so I can just say, it's only this way. You know, I have to make compromises, which is fine because it teaches me a new energetic thing. Yeah. Just way of being. And so it's like giving that allowance to your son and like reducing.

Ginette Biro
Mm-hmm.

Christian
guilt that I have with electronics and people just enjoying. Oh no, you can't enjoy it. You need to produce. That's kind of my conditioning. And so now that I'm starting to undo that more and more, whenever I return back to Germany or even from here, sometimes I just show my parents who now...

my siblings have their kids, so it's like their grandchildren, and they see me with Ari with electronics or like he's watching TV. It's like not all the time, but like when they see it, right? They're just like, either they feel like, that's wrong, or sometimes they're like, oh, okay, that's not that bad. You know what I mean? So you can be that example inspiration. Like I feel like the most things in life, they just happen in the unspoken, you know?

It's so fascinating how we inspire people, how we change someone's life. And most of the times people don't even tell you about it. know, it's like, this guy inspired, I'm going to do this. You never heard of that, you know?

Ginette Biro
Yeah,

yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's beautiful. And that's the beautiful thing about life, right? Like we're always learning from other people. And I think when we learn, but then we also share our stories, we create this beautiful kind of infinity loop of giving and receiving and giving and receiving, and we're doing our part.

Christian
Yeah, I love it. So yeah, we're coming towards the end of the episode, but I want to ask you a couple more questions. I'd love to see what do you see as the future of spiritual entrepreneurship as more and more people are awakening?

Ginette Biro
Mm-hmm.

That's a great question. Well, I mean, there's a couple things.

I more and more and more people are going to have the will to put themselves out there. And I think that's a good thing. I know in the business mind, some people think, well, the market's flooded already. There's no point to have more mediums or healers or whatever. ⁓ I disagree. Like I said, I think there are so many people that offer many different perspectives and energy frequencies, right? Like even for me.

Someone might offer the exact same things as I do, but maybe they prefer the other person because the other person brings more robust energy to it, which is not my style, right? Like, I think there's space for everybody to be sharing. I really do. So I think there's that. I think we are also going to see a dissolution in time.

of those that are carrying false frequencies and those are like the charlatans. Those are the, if I use mediumship again, those are the mediums that are charging, I don't know, $2,000 for a session and you have to buy this $800 set of crystals for it to work. Do you know what I mean? Which not really mediumship. It's just simply taking advantage. I think as people raise their consciousness, they're going to be able to see through who is fake and who is more legit. They're going to feel it.

Right? So I think that's also going to bring more people ⁓ out and wanting these services. Because then the third point is, I think we can already see this, but my guides have been talking a lot that we are opening up more and more to different modalities of healing, healing the body, healing the mind, healing our outlook on life.

healing so many different things and growing in so many different ways, right? Like people reach out to me, like we talked about in beginning, for mentorship for their businesses. That wouldn't have happened years ago, right? So people are starting to bring in these ideas of like, I need to tap into something I haven't yet for my business. Maybe I need to look at the spirit realm. So I think there's this beautiful growth happening. And the higher we go in our consciousness, the more we awaken.

the more we'll be aligned with those pieces. And so I just think now is the time for everyone who's feeling the desire to create a business and offering. Now is the time to follow those leads as they come in because you are leading into your soul's purpose and expression or a part of it. It's happening now. It's astrologically happening right now. So I think it's a beautiful time to be alive in that way.

Christian
Beautiful. And what are your future goals as a spiritual brand, as an entrepreneur, as a company? What are you looking to call in, I would say, in the coming years?

Ginette Biro
⁓

Me specifically, I'm looking to call in more speaking opportunities to share insights and stuff. So that's something I'm wanting to really grow. We are starting a spiritual summit that'll be coming out in 2026 that we're going to be hosting, which I'm very excited. It's like a real next level step for us. again, just expanding the reach of

of offerings and bringing other people to share in those offerings like at Avalon Spirit. Avalon Spirit is not just all about me. I helped create the company, but we have several different other people that offer astrology, offer somatics, offer healing. And I think it's about bringing people together in that way. we're always creating new courses, new things to experience, but

I think it's really bringing more people together in bigger spaces and helping people sort of bathe in the good vibes. Yeah.

Christian
I love

that. sharing the nectar in a way, know, like there's so much and I think the more people experience it, same with like tea, know, there's all these incredible things that tea can bring into your life, but most people just haven't even experienced what tea really is or what channeling really is, right? So I think there's a lot of potential and just like you said, you know, that the market is by far not, you know,

Ginette Biro
Yeah, exactly.

Christian
saturated at all. There's a big need for people to understand and see, just to be exposed to that type of information because people don't even know that's out there. very cool. Is there any last words for the audience? last words your collective would like to say or yourself? yeah, any last words for us?

Ginette Biro
Yeah, absolutely.

Yep, yep, absolutely.

So from me, and then I'll ask my guides, but from me, I would love to challenge everyone listening, and I'm included in this challenge here, but is that I dare you to allow yourself to be your most authentic self, even for, say, the summer, the next two months. Allow yourself the opportunity and see what you might reveal if you give yourself two months to be your most authentic self.

What would that look like? So that's my challenge for everyone watching. So I think it's a beautiful form of liberation if we really dive in. And from my guides, let me see what they want to say.

okay. So they're saying they're like the time has come for the ⁓ tipping of the scales where we're really going to be stepping into ⁓ bigger awakenings, bold awakenings. whether that's like they're showing it to me in the way of like ET disclosure, like much broader ET disclosure in the next year and a half is what I'm being shown. But things and experiences both on the collective and individually that you cannot deny.

that are opening up your eyes. So there's a big like lots of eyes are being opened and sparks of awakening happening. So if it hasn't happened for you yet, it's they're ramping it up. So this next year and a half will be pretty interesting they're saying.

Christian
Wow. Wonderful. Well, we're open and very curious in how we started the podcast, you know, living the day with curiosity. And I love the prompt of like, what does it mean to live in your full authenticity? Cause even, even when myself, like I feel myself like kind of like arriving at this place of like, okay, cool. Like I've built this business and that business like

Ginette Biro
Mmm.

Christian
Where do you want to go? Like what's most authentic? I think that's also a stage or phase that people can get stuck in. Like once you are at a certain level of success, like, oh yeah, God kind of the level of success you want to have, but like what else is there? Like how can you, how do you want to express? How do you want to show up? Who do you want to serve now? So yeah.

Ginette Biro
Yes, I think that's beautiful.

Christian
Well, thank you so much for your time, your wisdom, your heart, and bringing in your guides with you. That was a wonderful time. Thank you.

Ginette Biro
Yeah, thank you for having me.